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After several years of inactivity, my disease got the better of my better judgement, and I have purchased the plans for my next project....


http://atkinboatplans.com/Sail/ForeAnAft.html


I will be building a model first, as this is a somewhat larger project than I have undertaken before....
wow, cant wait to see this progress, good luck and enjoy!!
Ouch, that's a fat little hooker. I have a 1960 Atkins boat, a 37' power cruiser and her full up displacement is the same as Fore and Aft. She's quaint, but wow a lot of boat on that LWL. I've seen a few of these built and the most common theme among the owners was, they wished they'd placed all 3 1/2 tons of ballast on the outside in a lead casting. A comfortable home afloat, considering here length. Good luck with this obviously several year project.
just read the website , nice boat big project!
what the hull made of ?
Wood Wink

Western Red Cedar and White oak is what I plan on using, unless the plans say otherwise. I plan on making it a cold-formed hull, because it will be stored out of the water for the winter.
Wow, I'm a Hero Member AND a newbie.

I think that says it all....
I'm hoping to keep this project under$15k, and have it complete in less than four years. It is meant to be my 'cabin', so the displacement is what i am looking for. I have heard others talk about the ballast issue, and I will be looking at the possibility of moving 1500 to 2000 pounds of interior ballast back outside.

The runner up design was the Benford 26' Gaff Sloop.

Needless to say,I am quite excited to get started.
(03-02-2013, 05:32 PM)brit howell link Wrote: [ -> ]The runner up design was the Benford 26' Gaff Sloop.

Greetings Brit,

Yes, I am a fan of Jay Benford's Ragnar design - available in lengths from 20 to 26 ft ...

[img width=300]https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-F2_yPbuwI8I/S29uxIuaUNI/AAAAAAAAANM/-PnaZ7O2sjg/s640/IMGP3119.JPG[/img] [img width=300]https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-y6Wi0WO5_04/S29u1UPJoPI/AAAAAAAAANY/I1A8wm09zuI/s720/IMGP3123.JPG[/img] [img width=300]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-1OiYCz-WZVc/S29u3XmekgI/AAAAAAAAANc/FUYvojQ6fV8/s720/IMGP3124.JPG[/img] [img width=300]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/--rao1JloiqY/TsCzt-8-yPI/AAAAAAAADa8/AUC-Akr7pyk/s1600/4646844496_18605a0513_o.jpg[/img] [img width=300]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-TvhMNTPgmbI/TsClqABi_zI/AAAAAAAADZA/EG_XhT2HFUQ/s1600/DSCN2071.JPG[/img] [img width=300]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-RFAICvdK3Vo/TsClRSAiH4I/AAAAAAAADYo/dl-4hDNDQDU/s1600/IMG_2061.jpg[/img]

More photos at Picasa and Dory-man

Exactly which 26 foot Benford design are you talking about?

He has several and it is hard to find photos of the 26 footers.


An interesting Benford sail plan ...

[img width=300]http://www.benford.us/images/sunrise-large.jpg[/img]

Cheers,
Tom
Very nice. Is that yours?


This is the one I looked at. It was a decision that took over two years to make...

http://benford.us/pdf/FriendshipSloops.pdf

Obviously, the 26' Gaff rig  Wink
I think you are being overly optimistic about building a Fore & Aft for less than a dollar per pound of displacement.

Jay Benford (a nice guy I haven't seen in a few years) began his career sitting at the drawing table, behind Billy Atkins. His style and sensibilities are similar to John and Billy in many regards, though he also has evolved into modern building techniques.

If you intend to build within your budget, you'll need a modern design. One that takes advantage of materials and techniques to save money and materials. The modern design can look just like the old school 28'er, and can also have a hefty D/L ratio for comfort, but there's a lot more to comfort then just a heavy boat. Take a hard look at some of Jay's designs, which also can have D/L's in the low to mid 400's. His displacement comes from volume where desired, rather than just the mass of materials employed. Ted Brewer's designs would be another place to look as well.
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